Meanwhile, Prop 8 in California passes, meaning that gay marriage is illegal again. What is wrong with people? I thought in a time of celebration of diversity, maybe there would be some recognition that all humans are human.
Don't blame me - I voted against it and it failed in my county. What they're saying is that the percentage of voters against gay marriage is far smaller than what it was the last time an issue like this was on the value so they're taking some comfort it that. And it's under appeal. And I guess it's still up in the air if the marriages conducted while it was legal are still valid or not. Wouldn't that suck if they weren't?
And there's all that religious stuff, which is possibly even harder to overcome than racism, which at least lacks any convincing Biblical arguments. Or at least does now.
It really is a sad day re: Prop 8. I had really just assumed it would fail... not that I could vote on it or anything.
What's interesting, though, is that I read an article saying that it may be a downstream effect of Obama's get-out-the-vote efforts... apparently a large number of black voters voted for Prop 8, and they think a lot of these folks wouldn't have voted if not for Obama. We experienced a similar effect in my home county, where some of our best judges were beaten by, among other things: a) a man who has never practiced law before and ran solely because he didn't like the way the sitting judge handled his divorce case; and b) a woman who specifically said she didn't want the job and didn't campaign. The link between all of these strange winners? They were endorsed by the black caucus.
I don't know what the significance of all that is, and as much as I hate these results, I'm still glad we got Obama elected, but it is interesting academically.
That idea about the black voters sounds very reasonable to me. I think the big thing about Prop 8 the trend. I'm hoping that in a few more years, there will be enough support to turn it around, finally--but maybe in a year when the Mormons are low on money and the evangelical blacks don't have a hot candidate.
Interesting too that the SC congressman from Charleston, Henry Brown, had a tough fight against a Democrat who was also a gay activist. Things will change!
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And so very much don't blame anybody on my flist! It's the other idiots...
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I must have missed it - which way did NC finally go, red or blue?
And also, the margin in Missouri, where I'm from was smaller than in NC, but they called it red. Does NC have a recount law or somesuch?
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Yay for google-fu?
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So seems like a recount will have to happen, since the difference is less than 1%.
But I don't think it's going to greatly change the outcome.
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Homophobia isn't broadly seen as wrong as distateful the way open racism is.
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What's interesting, though, is that I read an article saying that it may be a downstream effect of Obama's get-out-the-vote efforts... apparently a large number of black voters voted for Prop 8, and they think a lot of these folks wouldn't have voted if not for Obama. We experienced a similar effect in my home county, where some of our best judges were beaten by, among other things: a) a man who has never practiced law before and ran solely because he didn't like the way the sitting judge handled his divorce case; and b) a woman who specifically said she didn't want the job and didn't campaign. The link between all of these strange winners? They were endorsed by the black caucus.
I don't know what the significance of all that is, and as much as I hate these results, I'm still glad we got Obama elected, but it is interesting academically.
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Interesting too that the SC congressman from Charleston, Henry Brown, had a tough fight against a Democrat who was also a gay activist. Things will change!