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After getting hooked on Veronica Mars in the last part of S2, I've watched a little spottily in S3--decided to take a look at the beginning via DVD. Also going back to the beginning for Angel.
So the first three episodes of VM answered some of my questions, like how she ever got Weevil as a pal, is her mom dead or what, what's the deal with the sheriff, etc. Of course I know there's many a twisty turn on the road started by each of those, but it's satisfying to know the starting point. I find my incipient Vereevil desire growing--and of course don't want to be told if anything along that line has happened. Have to say that being somewhat spoiled on the Logan plot is actually not bad--it makes the open parts richer, knowing where his hostility is heading. And also where he is currently fits nicely with where he started.
VM's high school may not have a hell-mouth, but the snottiness of Logan and friends makes Cordelia and Harmony look like Betty and that other Veronica. Just something a little more nastily realistic about the whole thing (though I'll never lose my love for Sunnydale).
Interesting that in these early episodes, and also in the later ones, most of the ongoing central characters surrounding VM are male. I almost can't quite believe a teenage girl with no girlfriends, though somehow it works better when she's in college. Not sure why that is...maybe there will be some girlfriends in the middle. I know there is at least one friend around in S2, but I never saw an episode where she was really close to VM. And no mom or mom figure, though lots of mom-longing in S1. I have known women who didn't trust other women and didn't have them in their lives, but VM doesn't seem like that--and her enemies are male, too.
Anyway, it does continue to be a clever show, and I like the actors and plots. Will probably take me a while to see the parts I've missed, though.
I'm also currently starting at the beginning with Angel, having discovered that my friendly local public library has those DVD's. I've seen lots of episodes from probably S2 on, but this is my first chance to get to know Doyle--at last I'm undertanding all the grief when Glenn Quinn died. The imdb website mentions an unaired pilot made for the WB with footage from BtVS--that's not on the DVD I've found? I'm guessing it just gives the back story from BtVS, with no new plot stuff.
So the first three episodes of VM answered some of my questions, like how she ever got Weevil as a pal, is her mom dead or what, what's the deal with the sheriff, etc. Of course I know there's many a twisty turn on the road started by each of those, but it's satisfying to know the starting point. I find my incipient Vereevil desire growing--and of course don't want to be told if anything along that line has happened. Have to say that being somewhat spoiled on the Logan plot is actually not bad--it makes the open parts richer, knowing where his hostility is heading. And also where he is currently fits nicely with where he started.
VM's high school may not have a hell-mouth, but the snottiness of Logan and friends makes Cordelia and Harmony look like Betty and that other Veronica. Just something a little more nastily realistic about the whole thing (though I'll never lose my love for Sunnydale).
Interesting that in these early episodes, and also in the later ones, most of the ongoing central characters surrounding VM are male. I almost can't quite believe a teenage girl with no girlfriends, though somehow it works better when she's in college. Not sure why that is...maybe there will be some girlfriends in the middle. I know there is at least one friend around in S2, but I never saw an episode where she was really close to VM. And no mom or mom figure, though lots of mom-longing in S1. I have known women who didn't trust other women and didn't have them in their lives, but VM doesn't seem like that--and her enemies are male, too.
Anyway, it does continue to be a clever show, and I like the actors and plots. Will probably take me a while to see the parts I've missed, though.
I'm also currently starting at the beginning with Angel, having discovered that my friendly local public library has those DVD's. I've seen lots of episodes from probably S2 on, but this is my first chance to get to know Doyle--at last I'm undertanding all the grief when Glenn Quinn died. The imdb website mentions an unaired pilot made for the WB with footage from BtVS--that's not on the DVD I've found? I'm guessing it just gives the back story from BtVS, with no new plot stuff.
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>I almost can't quite believe a teenage girl with no girlfriends, though somehow it works better when she's in college.
Well, there was Lily. Others sort of do come along later on, though I think you'd have seen them all if you watched S2/3 (Mac!). She doesn't have many close friends, full stop, though. Surrounded by lots of girls (though the feminism gets a bit problematic, depending on who you ask).
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Even though right after I wrote that, I watched "The Wrath of Con" which has a lot more of the Lily friendship, but so far it's kind of stereotyped ("No yellow dress! You need to wear red satin!") girl talk.
Buffy (still an inevitable comparison) was more realistic about the friendship thing.
But still really relishing it all. And can already see that I'll need to re-watch the part I've seen--only got a small part of it the first time.
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