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mamculuna ([personal profile] mamculuna) wrote2008-09-11 01:38 pm

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[livejournal.com profile] fresne has a really good discussion of why Camille Paglia is wrong about Sarah Palin.

And if you're not familiar with what Paglia's been saying, the question is whether feminists should support Palin.

Even though her ego is way too big already,

[identity profile] altaego.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't disagree with a lot of what Paglia says in that piece.

Re: Even though her ego is way too big already,

[identity profile] mamculuna.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't object to Palin's style, or her family choices. I do have problems with her fundamentalism (Fresne says it well) and most of all with the fact that she has not yet made a national speech that she wrote, or faced a press conference. I'm concerned about the views she puts forth about Creationism, choice, global warming, the environment. Paglia questions whether she really holds the views imputed to her, but I haven't heard any protests from her about how she's represented on those counts.

Paglia is right about some problems with the Obama campaign. I'm worried, too. Where is James Carville when we need him?
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[identity profile] atpolittlebit.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I commented in fresne's journal, but I'll repeat here:

I think the difficulty of articles like the one by Paglia is that she mixes her message rather badly. She lavishes praise on Palin to the extent that it becomes easy to miss that she herself supports Obama and admires Palin more or less solely for her 'moxie' while possibly disagreeing with her on all issues besides the one that women can be strong.

[identity profile] mamculuna.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Very true! I had to read it a couple of times to be sure that was what she was saying. Paglia in the past has liked some weird people as part of her "bad girl" image. I see what she finds appealing in Palin--they have a similar presentation.

Just because it seems appropriate

[identity profile] mummm.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/palin.asp

Re: Just because it seems appropriate

[identity profile] mamculuna.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I know that some of the stuff about her has been exaggerated, but it would help if she'd speak about herself.

Re: Just because it seems appropriate

[identity profile] mummm.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
That's true. I am upset by all the things that is revealed as untruths on that site... not just about her but about all of them.

Re: Just because it seems appropriate

[identity profile] mamculuna.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, http://www.factcheck.org/ is a good site, run by the Annenberg Foundation--they've noted some real problems in representing the candidates.

But if we can believe the NY Times, sometimes they misstate their own cases:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/us/politics/11pipeline.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=login

Re: Just because it seems appropriate

[identity profile] mummm.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I will look them over.